Back in December of 2018 we did a reconnaissance of the lower section of the Buck Creek Trail which you can read about
. Without making it all the way to the upper camp my conclusion at that time was that the lower camp was the original forest service site. Well I have since changed my mind. Finally visiting the upper camp adjacent the spring and since that earlier writing acquiring older versions of LP recreation maps I am now fairly confident the upper site was the first. Not that any of this matters to most but at least I'm setting the record straight. To make this a loop trip and even more exciting we dropped in on the old ridge trail that once connected the elusive Divide Camp with Upper Buck Creek Camp. After spending one night at Upper Buck we exited the next morning along 18W01 as it currently runs today.
Upper Buck Creek Trail-Head - N34° 38.297' W118° 55.196'
After the long drive up Alamo Mountain we took off from Upper Buck Creek TH in route toward the Summit of Sewart Mountain. Downed trees along this short stretch could really use a good chainsawing as it is just outside the wilderness boundary. In less than a mile you reach the Summit of Sewart. The views atop this mountain are pretty bad-ass, there is a small register can hidden in the prominent rock pile.
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In Route toward Sewart Mtn |
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Cobblestone Mountain as seen from Sewart. |
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More Sewart Views. |
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Snowy Peak |
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Looking down on Pyramid Lake from Sewart Mountain |
After a quick break atop Sewart we continued east dropping down to connect with the Big Cedar Creek Trail 19W05. It is precisely here at the 1.5 mile mark that Big Cedar and Buck Creek 18W01 junction together. The right turn for Buck is faint and easy to miss. Would surely help to have a sign installed here. For the majority of those wanting to visit Upper Buck this would be your turn off. Hoping to find evidence of Divide and having decided on the alternate route down we skipped the turn off and continued along 19W05.
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Buck Creek & Big Cedar Creek Trail Junction. - N34° 38.315' W118° 53.999' |
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Lupines blooming all along Big Cedar Creek. |
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Old trail to Divide Spring. - N34° 38.626' W118° 53.789' |
A half mile from the Buck junction is where we would exit 19W05 as seen in the photo above. Faint signs of the old trail leading up this ravine were plentiful. Within a short distance of between .1 and .2 of a mile we Located two flat areas that may have been the location of Divide Camp. Both flats had fire ring remnants and piles of rusted old cans. The spring adjacent the flats was flowing well. I have marked all the relevant information on the map at the bottom of this post with Downloadable GPX and KMZ files. Another note if you can I recommend viewing my blog posts from the desktop as the mobile photo views just kinda suck. Though you can always click on any picture to enlarge them.
Divide Camp Possibility #1 - N34° 38.587' W118° 53.730'
Divide Spring
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Divide Camp Possibility #2 - N34° 38.516' W118° 53.713'
At this second flat location is where the old trail departs down the ridge. Upon first glance it appears really thick and sorta impenetrable however if you hug the North side of the ridge where some of the tread is still visible it is a lot more open and easier to navigate. Deviate from this path and it becomes a nightmare. We picked our way down slowly enjoying the views and the wildlife interactions.
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Jeff ducking branches coming down the ridge. |
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This big guy wasn't bothered by us in the slightest. |
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Dropping into the upper Buck Creek drainage. |
Just before fully dropping into the drainage things get ugly. Sorry no real good way around it, it's thick down here. There are some open areas before reaching the Camp but you will do a good amount of bushwhacking as is to be expected when traveling decades old routes. Luckily the distance is short. Just put your head down and bulldoze. Traversing the higher right side of the valley through this section helped a lot. About .4 of a mile above the Camp is another spring with reliable water. I have labeled it Upper Buck Spring #2. That being said if you made it into camp and the adjacent spring was dry it would be a bummer to have to bushwhack back up to the higher spring. I might first try my luck at heading downstream to more reliable water from Buck Creek.
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Yeah that's pretty thick |
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Nicer open area leading toward camp. |
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Upper Buck Spring #2. What was amazing was the amount of water dumping out here yet going straight underground and not at all flowing further down the drainage. Quite a sight. - N34° 38.236' W118° 52.499' |
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You'll do well to walk this higher right side of the drainage and out of the real thick crap. |
The last mile proved to be a bit slow going but we finally arrived at Upper Buck Camp. This secluded and well shaded flat sits under cover from large oaks and conifers. The little compound has a lot going on which wasn't quite apparent at first until we dropped pack and gave it a good search. Getting in was less than 5 miles and we could have made a long day of it though I'm happy we didn't as we most likely would have been rushed and not discovered the old ice can stove and other hidden features. Besides the short stint up to Sewart at around 6800 feet elevation the rest of the way drops steeply downhill bottoming out around the 4200' mark. This site was one of the last wilderness camp surveys I had left to complete for MPRD. I very much enjoyed the night I spent here and do look forward to returning sometime for a top to bottom shuttle From Upper Buck TH down to Hardluck.
Here's a before and after picture of what is most likely a newer user created site right off the old trail. We brought the ice can stove from where it was hidden down in the ravine up to the site and built a bench from deadwood. I'd say we left the place nicer than we found it. Notice the no longer legible plywood sign in the tree. - N34° 38.251' W118° 52.150'
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I left no register this time. Instead signed in on the piece of deadwood used to construct the bench. For the record I would never advocate carving into anything living or historical. If this pisses you off one I don't care and two just know that it must be more environmentally friendly than me leaving a blue can filled with paper and pens. Please do not email me complaining about it. |
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Paperwork, there always seems to be paperwork. |
The Spring at Upper Buck Creek Camp - N34° 38.265' W118° 52.164'
Thousands of Ladybugs by the waters edge.
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Metal sign in the tree northeast the plywood sign - N34° 38.251' W118° 52.137' |
These photos show what was most likely one of the original sites. Pictured above and below the intricate rock wall structure and fire ring. N34° 38.235' W118° 52.133'
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Original position of the ice can stove - N34° 38.268' W118° 52.156' |
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Third fire ring nearer the ice can stove and lean-to second rock shelter - N34° 38.266' W118° 52.142' |
Second rock wall shelter with lean-to built up around it
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Zoom in to see the rad little baby California Mountain King snake found down by the spring. |
I suspect this was once a well used camp. We found many antique bottles and various old rusted cans. The location is great and some of the clearest & best tasting water in the LP comes from Buck Creek Before the trails leading in and out went to shit one can see this was most likely a happening spot. I really wish more effort would go into maintaining the Southern Los Padres and for that matter not being able to drive to the lower Buck Creek TH is ridiculous. It's one thing not to resurrect Hardluck for the sake of the Arroyo Toad but for crying out loud please give us back the trail-head access. This would help alleviate pressure on the same trails people use and abuse over and over again.
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Higher on the western side of the drainage |
As was the case with the previous day getting out of the Buck Creek drainage even along the current 18W01 is a pain in the butt. The first .3 of a mile sucks. Major Bushwhack. To get out of the brush we made haste away from the trail and onto to the higher western portion of the drainage where it opens up a little more. In fact if you look at the track you see an abrupt right turn, that was us saying alright enough of this brush choked gully. Luckily this is again a very short distance. Once out of the thick stuff it's not bad at all. Climbing out before reaching the dry pond the trail shows on different sides of the drainage depending on what map your looking at. We found the west side to be just fine in fact switchbacks and plenty of tread will lead you up and out.
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When you pass these you'll know your on the right path. |
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Dry Pond just before reaching the ridge, you'll push through some brush here and then it's wide open. Apparently this was being used as a campsite at one point as remnants of a fire ring and makeshift bench can be found near the center. - N34° 37.694' W118° 52.734' |
After popping out from the pond the rest of the trail is wide open and in decent shape along the ridge. Closer to the Buck/Big Cedar junction there are faint areas that will require pushing through brush and a few downed trees but nothing really to fret over. It's a beast of a climb but affords great views of Cobblestone, Snowy, White Mountain and of course my favorite a glimpse down 19W12 into the Borracho vicinity.
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Wide open ridge top along 18W01 |
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Fairly certain this post marks what was once the 19W12 connector leading to Borracho - N34° 37.797' W118° 53.554' |
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A look down toward Campo Borracho. |
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Loving that purplish blue color |
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Upper Buck Creek Trail-Head in the distance. |
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Beat up old gate on the western flanks of Sewart. |
We left the camp around 7:30 am and were back to the car within 4 hours arriving just before 11:30. Total mileage for the loop came in at around 10. This trail desperately needs maintenance especially the half mile stretch into and out of the camp. This is an outstanding hike and can be an even better destination with a little volunteer effort. Maybe the next time I return it will be with tools in hand on a trail crew.
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12 comments:
Looks like alot of work forca hike.love the sound of the water, dry places look like pretty hot up there. Good job Chris.
Thanks Gram Luv ya.
Loved the trip report. I'm bummed you did not go down the trail far enough to find my lost hat. Why-oh-why does the Buck Creek trail still haunt me? I, too, wish they'd let you drive in to Hardluck. That road walk hurts the feet.
Diane I couldn’t help but think of you throughout the trip. Glad you enjoyed this one. Damn yeah I had forgotten about your hat you should probably go back and get it 😉
Great write-up. Brings back good memories. I did a similar hike in 2012 after the Day Fire and the brush was not an issue. Think you have heard that before from me. Divide Camp is shown on the 1958 Mc Donald Peak topo map as Divide Forest Camp. That is what got me looking for it.
Kim
" Brush shouldn't be an issue" and "it should open up anytime now" Classic Coakley words. Thanks for dropping in Kim. I still have that 58 Quad you sent me, great map.
Sometime back in the mid 90's, in January,I drove from Santa Barbara to the Hardluck trailhead, via mountain bike the last part, hiked up the Buck Creek Trail, went to White Mountain peak,got bit by a tick, and returned home. Oh, I was so much older then, I'm younger ...
You're doing God's work. Or at least the Forest Service's work.
Yeah, the Hardluck thing... :/
Madison the big problem with the Hardluck Rd is it becomes a management issue, made even more difficult by the lack of FS staff. Alternatives would be to allow the public to “check out” a key to the gate, however countless issues with that. One thought shared with me is to extend the trail out from Hardluck to the Los Alamos gate on the old dirt road alignment. I'm considering adopting the Buck Creek trail but it's a big commitment. Will see what happens.
I could def live with the option of extending the trail to or near Los Alamos. That eliminates the dreaded road walk. Having folks "check out" a key seems like a bad idea. What could possibly go wrong?
im going on a bikecamping trip next week,from our family property,we border,Hungry Valley Park.its less than a days ride.ride in one day, stay one day, leave next.before it gets to hot.ive got all camping needs,including water purifier & bear canister, that i mounted to my front rack.also my whisky bottle.anyone, wanting to come along, are welcome.
Well folks, it appears that I'm 3 years late on posting but I just recently came across this blog. My very first backpacking trip was when I joined the Boy Scouts was in 1972; I was 12 years old. My first trip was "Buck Creek". At that time, we car camped at "Hard Luck" and there was a very nice cabin there with lights and some old guy lived there. I had hiked to buck creek a few times after that; 1979, 80 and 81. By 1979, Hard Luck was closed down and you had to park where the road crossed Piru creek. There was definitely a lower Buck Creek camp. Upper Buck Creek camp was where the spring is. I do remember it not having a lot of trees. I don't remember any trail going up to Divide Camp area.
Because of this blog, I made it a bucket list point to hike from Buck Creek Trail head near Sewart Mtn to Cobblestone Mtn. 18W01 was so overgrown it took us 5 hours to get to White Mountain and then turned back from there.
I researched the elusive divide camp and it must be very near the junction of 18W01 and Big Cedar Creek Trail. I superimposed the 1950 Los Padres National Forest Recreation map over the most current google topo map. Alignment points were Sewart Mtn, Snowy Pk and Buck Creek Camp. The tributary’s to Buck Creek align almost perfectly. That said, it appears Divide Camp would have been at the intersection of 18W01 and Big Cedar Creek Trail Junction. - N34° 38.315' W118° 53.999’. Moreover, it appears the drop down trail to Buck Creek really starts somewhere along 18W01.
That said, I plan to get over there again to find that camp and the real trail to Buck Creek.
Thanks for reading.
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